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Flynn Jul 19, 2010 03:52 PM

Atahualpa 3.5.2 released, WP3 ready
 
See http://wordpress.bytesforall.com/?p=93

  • With the new WP3 menu system
  • Export/Import system now uses the JSON format instead of the serialized/base64_encode format used in 3.5.1
  • The reason for the change is that Wordpress.org won't list the base64_ version due to the malicious things often done with base64. Sorry I should have thought about that. base64 encoding the settings files seemed to be a quick fix for the issues many users had with the settings files.
  • Unfortunately this means that if you exported a settings file in 3.5.1 and want to import that in 3.5.2, you'd need to do some legwork: Download this zip file, extract it, rename the "uploadBASE64.php" to "upload.php" and replace the existing "upload.php" in Atahualpa 3.5.2 with it.
  • If you don't have old settings files that you want to import then you don't need to do the steps described above
This release was mainly about the new WP3 menu system and the change of the settings file format. I will add the bug fixes that Juggledad posted, in the next release

lmilesw Jul 19, 2010 04:39 PM

This is GREAT. Thanks Flynn

Sonja Jul 19, 2010 06:03 PM

Thanks for the WP3.0 menu upgrade.

Does that mean that bugfixes 351-01 thru 351-06 (http://forum.bytesforall.com/showthread.php?t=7973) are not in 3.5.2, but will be in 3.5.3 ?

lmilesw Jul 19, 2010 06:10 PM

That's correct Sonja although if you use the WP menu you don't need the sub menu bug fix.

Kesava Jul 19, 2010 09:52 PM

As I am happy using the custom menu widgets and don't need the 3.0 menu feature, is there any point in me upgrading? I'm running 3.4.9 at the moment and have no problems.

lmilesw Jul 19, 2010 09:56 PM

If you aren't anxious for the WP menu integration you can certainly wait until all the bug fixes are in place before upgrading Kesava.

perplex Jul 20, 2010 02:25 AM

Very cool!

Thanx!

Kazna Jul 20, 2010 10:58 AM

The new version is great, thanks for all the efforts. But there's one thing i thought you've missed , that the bug where hyphens, commas,.. not displayed is still there although we had the fix here http://forum.bytesforall.com/showthread.php?t=8037 :D

karas Jul 25, 2010 04:36 AM

Thank you! I actually registered this morning just to find the answer to this question. Worked great :)

kjetil Jul 31, 2010 05:17 AM

Quote:

Unfortunately this means that if you exported a settings file in 3.5.1 and want to import that in 3.5.2, you'd need to do some legwork: Download this zip file, extract it, rename the "uploadBASE64.php" to "upload.php" and replace the existing "upload.php" in Atahualpa 3.5.2 with it.
I still have a couple of sites on ata 3.4.6 (and WP291) that I'd like to upgrade to ata 353.
1) Would I have to go through this legwork to avoid problems/ loosing settings? Is it necessary to export/import the settings not to loos them? (I have a lot of extra css etc - could I eventually just copy/paste that code to be safe?)
2) Would I also have to go via ata 3.5.2 (the first version where the export/import was mentioned, I believe) to avoid loosing settings?
3) Finally, should I wait upgrading to 3.5 before I've upgraded the sites to WP 3.0? (Difficult anyway because not all plugins are updated, but that's an other story)
Thanks - again

lmilesw Jul 31, 2010 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjetil (Post 3887)
1) Would I have to go through this legwork to avoid problems/ losing settings? Is it necessary to export/import the settings not to lose them? (I have a lot of extra css etc - could I eventually just copy/paste that code to be safe?)
2) Would I also have to go via ata 3.5.2 (the first version where the export/import was mentioned, I believe) to avoid loosing settings?
3) Finally, should I wait upgrading to 3.5 before I've upgraded the sites to WP 3.0? (Difficult anyway because not all plugins are updated, but that's an other story)
Thanks - again

  1. That legwork is only if you exported from 3.5.1 and want to import to 3.5.2 or 3.5.3. If you do a manual upgrade your settings should be transferred.
  2. You don't have to go to 3.5.2 first
  3. Whether you upgrade WordPress or Atahuapa first is not important.
Most importantly you should do a MANUAL upgrade meaning DON'T use the automatic upgrade feature of WordPress. Just upload the 3.5.3 folder via FTP to your WP themes folder. Then activate it and see what happens. If you have issues just reactivate 3.4.6 and tell us what the issue is. You will need to copy the image files you uploaded for 3.4.6 into the corresponding folders for 3.5.3 and change image paths in the ATO but that doesn't take very long.

If you still are uncertain about anything concerning the procedure please ask before doing the upgrade.

kjetil Jul 31, 2010 01:17 PM

Great - thanks Miles(?) - just as I hoped it should be!
Thanks also for pointing out the transfer of the image folder - to keep header images, our logo and favicon. Easy to forget.
I always do upgrades manually. Its safer.

The only real legwork then will be the remaking of our templates. We use different templates for different categories (to make each of them individually postable), and since the index.php file (which all the templates are based on) is changed now (between 251 and 252 I believe), we can't just transfer all those old templates to the atahualpa253 folder.
I just mention this in case it can be useful for others :o)

Ready for upgrades! (as soon as we've tested all our plugins on WP3)

kjetil Nov 8, 2010 03:32 PM

In short: I'm stuck
(And: Your might need to rewind a bit - I'm late with our final upgrade.)
Now, after upgrading three other sites (all from WP291 to 301 and At 246 to 353) without problems, our main site is just chaos. Basically it looks like no CSS is working.
My main question is if there might be any other steps I must do to make this work.
I've done all the upgrades manually (yes, I follow a detailed list). In addition to the normal upload'n activate stuff I've
- copied over all needed images (for headers, favicon) and
- I've rebuilt new templates. This was easy because I've used identical templates on this site. (The /cucina part of dolcevita.no has its own WP install.)
- Also, I've uploaded the two fixes (this and this) that have done the job fine on the other sites.
As for now, the main part of dolcevita.no is on WP301 but back on At246 - where eg submenus won't work. This makes the site inaccessible.
Should I upgrade the theme via some other version, do some export/imort or some other magic...?
Any hint would be VERY MUCH appreciated!
Thanks,
:confused:

lmilesw Nov 8, 2010 03:38 PM

It looks like you found the fix. I saw it when it looked bad, refreshed the page and all was good.

kjetil Nov 9, 2010 09:28 AM

Thanks a lot for coming back to me!
Sorry - but I should have been more precise: The menu doesn't work.

Have a look at the second button - "Steder i Italia" - and move down on it. The sub menus (out from Nord-Italia, Midt-Italia etc, showing all the different regions of Italy) don't show up. Since this is the entrance to all the 150 travel articles on the site, the most interesting part of the site is shut off. (Also, the level 1 dropdowns don't look as they did when I was on WP 2.9.1 - no big deal)
Since At 3.4.6 doesn't support the WP 3 menus, building new menus that way is no option.
And moving to At 3.5.3 ruins the site (makes it look like all css is gone).
Now, since this somehow appears to be a css or settings problem, I thought I should try updating to At 3.5.1. That version supports export/import but not the WP 3 menus. (If that doesn't work, I can rebuild it all in WP 2.9.1 with my backups.)
Any input is still HIGHLY appreciated!
Kj
PS What you saw was probably just the maintenance page - which I removed just after posting my grief...

juggledad Nov 9, 2010 10:10 AM

it looks like you haven't applied the menu fixes

BUGFIX 353-01: Fix styling when using the new WordPress menus
- http://forum.bytesforall.com/showthread.php?t=8756

BUGFIX 351-04: Fix sub-menu padding with WordPress 3.0 (needed in 352/353 also)
- http://forum.bytesforall.com/showthread.php?t=7654

lmilesw Nov 9, 2010 10:11 AM

Those menu issues look like you haven't applied the bug fixes as listed in the New Versions and upgrading thread. I think once you apply those all should be gook.

kjetil Nov 9, 2010 12:24 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Thanks to both of you - I should wish you were right. No luck, though.
- I have double checked that all files are in place, also the 3 files in the two bugfixes. With At 3.5.3 activated the site looks stripped for css - see attachments:
Attachment 876 (top of page)
Attachment 877 (a little down on the page)
- I have also tried deactivating all plugins - no difference
- Changing to the default theme, Twenty-ten 1.1, AND building WP3 menus - things work (apart from all the widgets, of course)

One possibility is that the templates I've made cause the trouble, even if I use identical templates without problems here.
Or, could it be some settings that don't transfer well through such a big upgrade? (from WP292/At246 to WP301/At353 - all done manually). Maybe re-upgrading to WP 3.0.1 once more could be an idea?
Meanwhile I move the site back to At346 - so at least it works partially (though without the submenus)
Thanks again - I really appreciate that you take your time!

PS After today's changes suddenly all widgets were gone - reinserting them would be a BIG job. A database backup from this afternoon solved that problem in seconds.
EVERYONE: BACKUP OFTEN - this plugin is probably the best way to a safer life

lmilesw Nov 9, 2010 12:48 PM

At www.dolcevita.no it still looks like you don't have the menu bug fixes installed. How did you create your templates?

kjetil Nov 9, 2010 01:10 PM

Now I'm back on At 3.4.6 and I believe I should not use those fixes on that old version. (The submenus don't work after upgrading from WP 2.9.1 to 3.0.1 - which makes the site hard to access.)
If I activate At 3.5.3 the site appears as shown in the screen dumps.

I've made the templates on basis of atahualpa's index.php file - just adding eg
Code:

<?php
/*
Template Name: Category 4 Piemonte
*/
?>

at the very top and
Code:

<div id="tommel">
<?php if(function_exists('wp_smart_image')) wp_smart_image($size='mini', $type = 'link') ?>
</div>

at line 24 to show post thumbs (using the smart image plugin).
That's all.
I have made one template for each category to show posts from each of the Italian regions on a page of their own (actually a category archive - like dolcevita.no/toscana/)
Thanks,

juggledad Nov 9, 2010 01:49 PM

if you are using templates build on the 346 index.php in 353 there maybe an issue since there were a couple lines changed

lmilesw Nov 9, 2010 02:15 PM

Instead of a page template how about trying the Widgets on Pages plugin instead? This allows you to put a shortcode on a page so you can show a widget there. One way to see if the template is the issue is to use the default template and see if the issues remain.

kjetil Nov 9, 2010 02:53 PM

First of all: Thanks again for trying to help me on

Juggledad: I stick to the Atahualpa version I'm working with. For all updates I've checked if the index.php file (the "mother" file) was changed. This time it was, so I made new templates from the 3.5.3 index.php file.
Miles: I'm afraid that would require me to rebuild most of the site. With about 200 posts and pages and eg lots of page and post specific sidebar content, this would be a big job. (This special setup also makes it possible to publish posts that automatically appear on their correct page / category archive - while WP normally just lets you post to one blog page, right?)
- and I switched to the default template on a "page" page and then switched to At 3.5.3. The same chaos.

What do you think about repeating the upgrade of WP? Any hope there?
Some possible CSS-problem? (The At settings/css inserts seems to follow nicely from At 3.4.6 to 3.5.3)
Funny thing...

kjetil Nov 13, 2010 04:37 AM

Problem solved!
It turned out to be (something like) a corrupted settings file.
After activating the Atahualpa 2.5.3 theme I picked one of the standard settings (Export/Import settings - Import Atahualpa settings file) and rebuilt our own design from that. Now everything works perfectly.
Before doing that, of course, I made notes (screen dumps) of all settings so I could copy paste it back. On the way I also reloaded the front end for each time I saved new settings.
Here I also found a paragraph of CSS (and php) - under Add hmtl/css inserts - which made the front end go blank. I was surprised, because I previously had removed all css inserts without that helping anything.
My conclusion is that the problems I had were caused by a mix of this css paragraph and some weird error in our own settings file (or the settings part of the database).
Thanks guys for your effort!

trusktr Nov 23, 2010 02:43 PM

I have 3.5.3 and i tried this fix but I still can't import my settings. I keep getting the same "Sorry, but .... doesn't appear to be a valid Atahualpa settings file" error.

How can I import these settings without breaking an arm and a leg trying to re-implement all the settings?

lmilesw Nov 23, 2010 03:16 PM

What version of Atahualpa were the settings exported from?

trusktr Nov 23, 2010 03:26 PM

I'm not sure, i'm awaiting the reply from the guy who sent me the settings. I did however try using the base64 upload.php but it still didn't work, so perhaps one of his plugins is messing up the export.
We shall soon see!

trusktr Nov 23, 2010 03:30 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Hey, check it out, this is the settings file i was trying to import.

juggledad Nov 23, 2010 05:00 PM

Send me the file. It's probably an export from 3.4.9?? And the format changed. There is a way to change the import code ( you can see how if you look at the 3.5.2 install notes)

trusktr Nov 23, 2010 07:42 PM

I attached the file above. I just found out though that my friend exported it from 3.5.3, it won't import for me in a brand new install of 3.5.3 so it leads me to believe that perhaps some settings are interfering on my server...

I'll take a look at the install notes too (3.5.2 only or 3.5.3 too?).

juggledad Nov 23, 2010 08:27 PM

Make sure your friend used the optional ato->Export/Import settings and not some other way of exporting it.

trusktr Nov 25, 2010 03:41 PM

I fixed the file. So for some reason, the file contained 15 or so lines (instead of just one). For some reason my friend's export made a new line at every ">" symbol of any html tags. Strange huh!?

So i replaced each new line with a space, and it worked. Basically, by having multiple lines, i think atahualpa was seeing extra newline characters in the string of settings and didn't know what to do.

The fix was simple: just go to the end of the first line, press delete, then add a space... then repeat again until all lines are one single line.

juggledad Nov 25, 2010 06:12 PM

What version did you export the settings from?
Attach a copy and I'll try importing them.

AB4C Nov 27, 2010 09:10 AM

Hi,

I am new to having a website/blog. I downloaded my first (premium) theme on 10/22/10. I spent a lot of time on it and wasn't able to get past some bugs that were making my site not function properly. I wasn't getting the problem solved with the developer.

About two weeks after that I downloaded a free theme through Wordpress. I really like this theme but there are constant bugs with this theme that make my site not function properly. Many people on the forum have the same problems. When the theme is updated those bugs may be fixed only to have new bugs. I'm tired of dealing with it. In the last two weeks I have updated this theme 3 times (4 total downloads of it).

So - my question:

After doing research I have decided to go with Atahualpa but on the forum I see that there are bugs with different releases (especially the last one 3.5.3??). Which release should I download that I will have the least problems with?

By the way - I do not know anything about CSS or adding things to my "files". I need a theme to work without me having to do anything to it/my files.

Thanks in advance for your help!

AB4C

lmilesw Nov 27, 2010 01:10 PM

You should download Atahualpa 3.5.3 from wordpress.bytesforall.com and apply the bug fixes as outlined in the New Versions and updating thread. It's not too complicated and if you have questions you can just ask here.

To get the most out of Atahualpa you should start learning some CSS but we can help you there or you can go to w3schools.com for tutorials.

Not having to make changes to your "files" (other than bug fixes) is one of the great things about Atahualpa. Items that take editing the them files with other themes can be done in the theme options with Atahualpa. Again don't feel daunted by the many configuration choices as we are always here to help.

When I first installed this theme I was challenged by the number of configuration options but soon came to realize that is the power of this theme. As I have mentioned before it is powerful but the price for that is a bit of a learning curve but there is much documentation built right into the theme and this forum can help as well.

AB4C Nov 27, 2010 04:43 PM

Hi,

Thank you for your quick response.

I have heard that there are over 300 customizations. Can some of these settings be left at default?

I am concerned about changing themes right now with it being "prime" shopping time and Cyber Monday less than 2 days away.

I will check out the site you referred me to for CSS tutorials - but - I'm wondering between those tutorials, waiting for help/responses on the forum and setting up the theme if I should wait until after Christmas?

I have managed to change a few things on my site (with my current theme) so that the "bugs" won't be so obvious to customers. I could get by.

Let me know what you think. I really have no idea what to do with the "bug fixes" for 3.5.3.

Thanks!

AB4C

lmilesw Nov 27, 2010 05:13 PM

There are 4 styles that come with Atahualpa along with the many customizations which give you a nice clean "out of the box" look and feel.

I too would be a little anxious about making a lot of changes at a busy time. You can of course install the theme and work on it during the slow hours and then switch back to your currently working theme during the busy hours.

What are some of some of the issues you hope Atahualpa can help you with?

AB4C Nov 27, 2010 05:32 PM

Hi,

Wow - very fast response!

That is a great idea to work on it at the times when it isn't busy - especially since I'm a night owl.

As far as "issues" - I just think it's a great theme from everything I've read all over the internet. I like the idea of being able to customize the theme. The one that I have now is pretty customizable and that is what I want.

I'm tired of bugs that don't get fixed or any attention to them - especially when they are bugs that make your site not function. I just updated the theme again today (4th time in 2 weeks) and it took care of the major bug but there are other minor bugs that replaced it.

I just hope that I can get help on this forum quickly (if I need it) when it comes to the bug fixes that you referred to for the 3.5.3 since I don't know anything about CSS and adding/modifying the CSS files.

I will watch/read the tutorials on the site that you recommended first.

I will let you know when I'm done with the CSS tutorials if I need help with the 3.5.3 bug fixes.

Thanks so much!

AB4C

trusktr Nov 27, 2010 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggledad (Post 50302)
What version did you export the settings from?
Attach a copy and I'll try importing them.

Hey juggledad, i already attached the file, see one of the above posts.
If you open it, you'll notice it is divided into about 15 lines. My friend exported from 3.5.3.
Perhaps it has something to do with his server (maybe it's windows???)

Anyways, if you concatenate all the lines together (add a space at the beginning of each line too), then you'll notice it works.

juggledad Nov 28, 2010 01:55 PM

trusktr - i went back and check the settings file. It shows as one line for me (on a Mac) and it imported fine for me. It could be a machine issue - ie the way the end of line is written cl/lf vrs just lf etc.


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