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Danielwerner Jul 4, 2009 01:01 PM

Themeframe?
 
Hi,

How goes it with the Themeframe-project (http://themeframe.com/)? I'm really looking forward to using it. The site says "coming June 2009" but that has passed now.

Maybe Flynn can provide us with an update?

Flynn Jul 4, 2009 07:54 PM

I'll update the site now. I am behind quite a bit but at least Atahualpa 3.4 is out now http://wordpress.bytesforall.com/?p=72

It'll be end of July at least for a first version of Themeframe

rpulse Jul 19, 2009 07:54 AM

I have been asking over and over for some major help on the comments. I have a serious problem, lots of readers and they can't leabe comments. I switched codes to:

%date('F jS, Y')% <strong>|</strong> ')% <strong>Category:</strong> %categories-linked(', ')% | %comments('<strong>Leave a comment</strong>', '<strong>One comment</strong>', '<strong>% comments</strong>', '<strong>Comments are closed</strong>')% %edit(' | ', 'Edit this post', '')%

On Footer Multi Post and Footer Single Post I have 2 comments now and can't have MORE????

Why did it stop allowing comments? Why can't I reply to comments?

WP 2.8.2
Theme 3.3.2

Please answer my much needed help....

hanks:(

owenl Jul 19, 2009 08:15 PM

rpulse - this is unlikely to be the theme - please go over your comments settings in wordpress - that may be where the problem is

Flynn Jul 22, 2009 12:07 PM

Please don't post randomly in unrelated threads

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpulse (Post 10684)
I have been asking over and over for some major help on the comments. I have a serious problem, lots of readers and they can't leabe comments. I switched codes to:

%date('F jS, Y')% <strong>|</strong> ')% <strong>Category:</strong> %categories-linked(', ')% | %comments('<strong>Leave a comment</strong>', '<strong>One comment</strong>', '<strong>% comments</strong>', '<strong>Comments are closed</strong>')% %edit(' | ', 'Edit this post', '')%

On Footer Multi Post and Footer Single Post I have 2 comments now and can't have MORE????

Why did it stop allowing comments? Why can't I reply to comments?

WP 2.8.2
Theme 3.3.2

Please answer my much needed help....

hanks:(


Danielwerner Aug 2, 2009 10:58 AM

Any news on this? It said "July, promised" and now it's August.

Sorry to nag, but I'm looking forward to this. :)

MCNX Aug 3, 2009 05:15 AM

Any proposed release date for Atahualpa 343 and ThemeFrame?

Flynn Aug 8, 2009 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danielwerner (Post 11745)
Any news on this? It said "July, promised" and now it's August.

Sorry to nag, but I'm looking forward to this. :)


Got me there, but I had to delay it yet again

WordPressZen.com Sep 23, 2009 04:36 PM

I am greatly anticipating and will appreciate ThemeFrame at whatever point you get to it! In the meantime, I am spreading the word about Atahualpa - thanks again for this fantastic WordPress customization solution, Flynn.

Flynn Sep 23, 2009 05:17 PM

Thank you, Channa.

Themeframe has to be the most delayed theme ever. I am almost through with the CSS creator which works like a desktop point & click website creator, with the help of a lot of handmade jQuery. After that it should be quick as I'll be able to take some parts from Atahualpa.

Themeframe will not be free, and it'll have an affiliate program.

JaneD Oct 4, 2009 01:07 PM

I love Ata, but am wondering specifically, what would be the benefit of this new option, Themeframe? I read over the features info on the site, but don't see anything that jumps out at me as being much different from Ata except for maybe the Page Templates? Would that be like so you can easily choose to have a 4 column "Home" page, with the interior pages being a traditional single column? I mean, I know you can do that with ATA, but it requires some extra work... And it appears there are more options available for the look of menus, ie. Drop Down, Fly Out, Drop Line Menus...

Is there an option of a rotating header image like in Ata?

Danielwerner Oct 26, 2009 06:28 PM

I have donated 40$, October 25 left... Themeframe beta was supposed to be available now. Anything new?

jankph Oct 28, 2009 01:30 AM

I guess Flynn and Juggledad have taken our money and are now sitting on some Caribbean beach or somewhere laughing at us...

Seriously, I too am waiting for a PM to pop up in my inbox, telling me where to download Themeframe. Three more days to go...hopefully they're just ironing out some of the final glitches they found.

DavePorter Oct 28, 2009 05:00 AM

Guys, if you read the news you will see that Flynn announced he was away for the first 3 weeks of October with limited Internet Access...

Give him some space to find his feet and I'm sure normal reception will be resumed soon.

Cheers Dave

Danielwerner Oct 29, 2009 05:23 AM

Yeah, totally, I'm really impressed with both Atahualpa and the Themeframe-project. And I'd rather wait for a stable release than get something undone faster. So I don't mean to give Flynn a hard time. :)

hospitalera Oct 29, 2009 07:24 AM

I am also sitting on the fence for themeframe, if it is not free (what I understand), what is the minimum donation one has to have made to get access? SY

juggledad Oct 29, 2009 09:31 AM

This is from the anouncement Flynn posted
Quote:

Themeframe Beta will only be available (and free) for forum members who donated $40 or more before Oct 25, 2009

Over 100 users reached that level and will get access to Themeframe beta end of October, and be the first to test the Themeframe affiliate program.

Join them by donating $40 or more before Oct 25, 2009. All Themeframe Beta users will get a free upgrade to Themeframe, which will be available in Nov 2009, at a higher price. *
I have no idea if that is still a firm date or if it will slip a little, only Flynn can answer that question

Vidal Oct 29, 2009 08:12 PM

Flynn - I'm a relatively new user of Atahualpa (3 months) but think it's great, many thanks for a quality product. Really looking forward to Themeframe as a result.

Two quick questions on Juggledad's note showing your post about who would be eligible to get the Themeframe beta.

1. If I donate now, would I be too late to get the Themeframe beta given that we are now past the 25th Oct?

2. Any indication yet on what the [higher] cost would be in November?

If anyone else knows the answer, please by all means jump in. Thanks again. V

WebTrooper Nov 1, 2009 01:31 AM

I just now upgraded to donor but now I notice one other poster mentions an Oct. 25 deadline. Is that true? I didn't see any mention of a deadline otherwise and I would be really disappointed if I couldn't get my hands on the upcoming beta release. Please tell me I will have access to it. :o

Thanks

Flynn Nov 1, 2009 02:02 AM

I plan to release a first version in 2-3 days. You can get in into the Beta group until it is released.

As for the final price, it will be within the price range of competing products, at the higher end, but not the most expensive. Not trying to make this a mystery but I have not set a final price yet. My main concern is to cover the support time per user.

WebTrooper Nov 1, 2009 10:34 AM

I have no doubt it will be worth every penny, whatever the price. Also, in no hurry - would rather you take all the time you need to make tf totally awesome. I'm just glad to know I'll be able to get my tinkering hands on the beta release. :p

Thanks!

Wimbledon Nov 1, 2009 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebTrooper (Post 17946)
I have no doubt it will be worth every penny, whatever the price. Also, in no hurry - would rather you take all the time you need to make tf totally awesome. I'm just glad to know I'll be able to get my tinkering hands on the beta release. :p

Thanks!

x2. Take all the time you need Flynn -- I'm sure it will be great!

masterchief Nov 3, 2009 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flynn (Post 17935)
I plan to release a first version in 2-3 days. You can get in into the Beta group until it is released.

As for the final price, it will be within the price range of competing products, at the higher end, but not the most expensive. Not trying to make this a mystery but I have not set a final price yet. My main concern is to cover the support time per user.

How to access the Beta groups?

regards,
William

juggledad Nov 3, 2009 10:00 AM

you need to have donated $40 or more to Flynn or myself (or any combination)

masterchief Nov 3, 2009 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggledad (Post 18092)
you need to have donated $40 or more to Flynn or myself (or any combination)

really?

check extreme right opposite of my avatar in all of my posts .

??????

juggledad Nov 3, 2009 10:14 AM

right, but it hasn't been released yet - you find out when it is.

masterchief Nov 3, 2009 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggledad (Post 18094)
right, but it hasn't been released yet - you find out when it is.

I would fully expect that. that is the way vBulletin works for sure.

Flynn posted this on 11-01:
I plan to release a first version in 2-3 days. You can get in into the Beta group until it is released.

I understood that to mean that perhaps Beta group was available.

I was really not expecting your response at all, especially since we have interacted in the past via the donor forums in regards to announcement box customization concept.

regards,
William

juggledad Nov 3, 2009 12:53 PM

Sorry if I offended you, I've answered so many posts that sometimes I can't remember who my wife is (grin) I just want to make sure everyone understands where Themeframe is at. I did some debugging of the Alpha version before Flynn went off in October and I'm sure he is hard at work getting it ready to release.

masterchief Nov 4, 2009 06:10 AM

we are all very passionate about wordpress and the coming of themeframe....

Danielwerner Nov 4, 2009 07:33 PM

Indeed! I've been looking forward to this for almost six months now. :)

WebTrooper Nov 7, 2009 07:06 PM

To be honest, I'm starting to get a little impatient. First it was August, then sept., then end of oct, then 2 or 3 more days, and today is Nov. 7. I could understand if this were a free extension, but we're paying in advance just to test the beta release, whenever that becomes a reality. And the production release has yet to see a price tag.

I just caught the part about $40, so I'm adding another $20 to my donation to bring it up to par. But really, you guys gotta release something soon or, I don't know, guess I'll go on a hunger strike or something.

juggledad Nov 7, 2009 07:50 PM

You've probably noticed that Flynn hasn't been very visable on the forums. I suspect it's because he is spending the majority of his time on ThemeFrame (He is in Germany, I'm in the US). I got a message from him yesterday (Fri Nov 6th), in reply to my question asking how ThemeFrame was going.
Quote:

It's getting along and I will release the CSS part shortly, as a plugin, plus static page templates which people can copy as page.php etc., so without a main theme control panel for now or else it would take longer. Currently finishing the menu creator and some drag & drop action to re-arrange the layout. I'll try to release this CSS creator any day now.
I know everyone is getting itchy, but for each problem he fixes before it's released, it will help everyone that will be using it.

Flynn Nov 8, 2009 02:39 AM

I will release what I have (the CSS creator part) within next week. From then on I'll keep adding features based on your input.

I am sorry for the delay which is caused by the fact that I am doing the hard part, the WYSIWYG part, at first. The remaining theme controls will be partly based on Atahualpa and take less time. You'll be much more productive with Themeframe than with Atahualpa.

Please keep in mind that this $40 dollar offer gets you in at a much lower price than the final price which will be well over $100.

paulae Nov 8, 2009 06:02 AM

And let's not forget that Flynn was off the reservation for a while in October doing his military service, so cut him some slack, folks! We're glad you came home safely, Flynn!

everyman Nov 8, 2009 03:02 PM

Hey Flynn, Juggledad --

Obviously we are all "chomping at the bit" to get our hands on Themeframe and curious about the pricing. I understand you need to make a living, however, here is some feedback about that. Your main competitive advantage right now is that you are comparable to Thesis and free. I am afraid you will lose that if you go with a $100 product. I think a better bet is releasing a simplified free-or-very-cheap version with an upgrade path. Get people hooked and then make them upgrade. At very minimum, give us a developer license for use with my clients, I may even pay a few hundred for that. Without that, I will just go with Thesis and their developer license that gives me a right to resell for $40. It's a more mature product.

My next project is actually styling Atahualpa like Thesis, because Thesis has much better typography. I will write more when that's done.

warm regards,
marc
http://everymanmarketing.com

Danielwerner Nov 8, 2009 05:14 PM

I don't agree. I think Atahualpa is the free product that will get people hooked. If I hadn't downloaded Atahualpa about two years ago and gotten COMPLETELY hooked, I wouldn't have waited for Themeframe for 6 months.

I would gladly pay $100 for a completed Themeframe-product, since I know how great Atahualpa was. Atahualpa should be the free theme and Themeframe the premium theme with all the Atahualpa-features and more. The main thing is to keep Atahualpa good but Themeframe better, and I know people will pay that much for it. :)

Although, I must say, with that pricing I ASSUME that there won't be a footer credit link.

paulae Nov 8, 2009 05:25 PM

Having recently worked with Artisteer to create some custom themes for clients, and trying out Thesis and Hybrid, I'm even more of an Atahualpa lover, and I can't wait for Themeframe.

I love that, even with "just" Atahualpa, I can give my clients customized sites that don't look like everybody else's on the web. I like to spend my time thinking about how to structure the site, not about how to tweak all the options by hand. I'm freed from all of that by the extremely useful Atahualpa options.

Themeframe should be even better.

Wimbledon Nov 8, 2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulae (Post 18445)
And let's not forget that Flynn was off the reservation for a while in October doing his military service, so cut him some slack, folks! We're glad you came home safely, Flynn!

Amen to that!

gonzalolandin Nov 9, 2009 04:56 AM

I think that if you have been working with Atahualpa you will be please to pay 100$ for theme frame.
I would pay 100$ for Atahualpa also.

bsizzle Nov 9, 2009 01:12 PM

Is it too late to donate to get into the beta group?


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