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juggledad Nov 29, 2009 04:15 AM

send me a PM with the paypal info and I'll see what I can do

tamogila Nov 29, 2009 05:31 PM

I'm thinking there may be a glitch of sorts. I donated $20 way back and had 1 gold bar, then I donated another $20 recently and now have zero gold bars.

juggledad Nov 29, 2009 06:16 PM

tamogila - don't worry about the bars, the system shows you with both donations.

extremecarver Dec 1, 2009 03:17 PM

You should add to your donation site, that money sent to Juggledad, will not immediately show up. Or so at least it has been the case for me (I put 20 each, but only received one PM regarding payment - none for the donation to Juggledad).

Well was planning to donate around 20$ anyhow, so this thread got me motivated to add up another 20.

So thanks for your great work here. Currently searching for part time work and living from donations because I need time in setting up a new business, I know how hard it is....

Edit: Just after posting, second gold bar appeared, still a bit slower....
Edit 2: After editing now both gold bars are gone...., you seem to have a problem here.
Edit 3: Well after re-entering they are back. So seem to be visible only if you access a thread, but gone after posting a reply, reappearing on reload.

juggledad Dec 1, 2009 03:22 PM

I just posted your payment to me, thanks - as long as the payment is made before the beta is released, you will get in. When I post the donations, I always post it as of the donation date, no matter when I actually post it.

Once again, thanks for the donation

(ps the bars probally happened because I was updating and hit an error and fixed it, so we were probably doing it at the same time)

extremecarver Dec 1, 2009 03:27 PM

No, the bars seem to happen each time. I just saw it again on editing. BTW now you sent me 3 times "payment received" - though I only donated twice.....

I think also after posting (I am sure right now after clicking on submit, they will be gone, if I reload they will be visible again - if they indeed continue showing up I'll edit my answer again).
Edit: not gone
Edit: They only don't appear if you edit a post, on simple reply the don't disappear, that must have been you updating.

byronyasgur Dec 3, 2009 01:24 PM

hi - i donated $40 in the hope that i am still on time for the beta release which i think i am - do i have to register somewhere to get access to the beta when it comes out or just check here ? cant wait - the video is very impressive - well done flynn :)

edit - actually my profile only shows one gold bar - probably because i confused the system with 2 separate donations 30 + 10 .... maybe someone could check it out for me thanks

juggledad Dec 3, 2009 07:11 PM

send me a PM with the paypal details of the two donations, only the $30 is showing

everyman Dec 4, 2009 03:04 AM

1) Flynn, Juggledad: do we have an ETA on Themeframe? And also, may I suggest closing off this thread and starting another (so that people interested in getting in on the beta don't need to read 4 pages of posts to get the scoop on what's happening?

2) All: Thanks for different viewpoints on Themeframe vs. Thesis. I think I would concur with folks that if Themeframe is the natural upgrade for Atahualpa, then it should be paid. If Themeframe is half as good as Thesis (which gets rave reviews all over the web) I think it will be quite the product!

3) Flynn: don't allow unlimited free sub-licenses. Charge $40 for a resold license, just like Thesis. My clients will pay it, for sure, if I tell them to (I would probably collect and pay you). It's a more-than-reasonable cost.

Warm regards,

Marc
http://internet101.biz

everyman Dec 4, 2009 03:10 AM

One more feedback on the typography of Atahualpa: H1, H2 and H3 are too big (and also it's not obvious how to restyle them -- maybe put a menu option for that). Here is my idea of an appropriate size:
http://internet101.biz/wordpress-how-to/

I would tend to agree with someone who wrote "Thesis sites look all the same, Atahualpa can be styled to whatever".

Keep up the good work.

Marc

masterchief Dec 5, 2009 08:49 AM

Its all about actually understanding the theme and how to effectively customize when prepared to do that. I use Thesis... I use Atahualpa.. I use ComicPress. I am signed up for themeframe. More software tools to use, or you can hand code it to get exactly what you want. Firefox firebug and web tools, or the standalone Stylizer all make that very easy to do. there are many others that perform just as well if not better.

Flynn is very good, that is why I chose to make my donation before there was even a themeframe announcement. Products like themeframe have capacity to put you web designers out of business IMHO.

regards,
William

hospitalera Dec 5, 2009 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by everyman (Post 20085)
...

3) Flynn: don't allow unlimited free sub-licenses. Charge $40 for a resold license, just like Thesis. My clients will pay it, for sure, if I tell them to (I would probably collect and pay you). It's a more-than-reasonable cost.

Warm regards,

Marc
http://internet101.biz

Marc, I am using Atahualpa (and plan to use Themeframe to make web sites for friends, family and church, if I would have to cash out an additional $40 per site, I couldn't do it. Perhaps in a few months / years, when I learned enough about web design to charge people for my services ;-) SY

masterchief Dec 5, 2009 09:01 AM

Flynn,

There should be two pricing schemes.. one for web designers who gain financially from your hard work, and another for subscribers. Web Designers already have the pricing scheme down and would offer little resistance in paying as they will surely recover expenses from customers many times over.

regards,
William

hospitalera Dec 5, 2009 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterchief (Post 20204)
Flynn,

There should be two pricing schemes.. one for web designers who gain financially from your hard work, and another for subscribers. Web Designers already have the pricing scheme down and would offer little resistance in paying as they will surely recover expenses from customers

regards,
William

Great solution! I am all for it! SY

websurfer Dec 6, 2009 05:28 AM

Themeframe looks cool. Donated $40 and looking forward to the beta release.

everyman Dec 6, 2009 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterchief (Post 20204)
Flynn,
There should be two pricing schemes.. one for web designers who gain financially from your hard work, and another for subscribers. Web Designers already have the pricing scheme down and would offer little resistance in paying as they will surely recover expenses from customers many times over.

Well, I am not sure that it's fair to discriminate against "web designers" (or even legal ;). That is why I am suggesting a $100 single-user license and a $40 reseller license cost (once people have paid-up the $100 -- which is similar to what Thesis offers). Flynn had previously said that reseller licenses to people such as web designers would be free. I would be more than willing to charge my customers $40 for this. Maybe allow free sub-licenses to non-profits and non-commercial use, to accomodate the other gentleman who commented.

Oh, and by the way, I am not a web designer, I am a website development and internet marketing trainer ;)

Marc
http://internet101.biz

WebsitesDemystified Dec 6, 2009 03:50 PM

So is it too late to donate to get the beta? And do donations to Juggledad count, or just Flynn?

hospitalera Dec 6, 2009 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by everyman (Post 20281)
... Maybe allow free sub-licenses to non-profits and non-commercial use, to accomodate the other gentleman who commented...

In case you refer to me, I am actually a "gentle woman" ;--) SY

Wimbledon Dec 6, 2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebsitesDemystified (Post 20283)
So is it too late to donate to get the beta? And do donations to Juggledad count, or just Flynn?

Donations to both count equally. It's not too late yet as the beta has not been released.

I can't wait to start tinkering with Themeframe!

masterchief Dec 7, 2009 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by everyman (Post 20281)
Well, I am not sure that it's fair to discriminate against "web designers" (or even legal ;). That is why I am suggesting a $100 single-user license and a $40 reseller license cost (once people have paid-up the $100 -- which is similar to what Thesis offers). Flynn had previously said that reseller licenses to people such as web designers would be free. I would be more than willing to charge my customers $40 for this. Maybe allow free sub-licenses to non-profits and non-commercial use, to accomodate the other gentleman who commented.

I am very satisfied subscriber and find no issue to seek compromise. I look forward to utilizing themeframe when it is made available. A web designer for profit can be construed as commercial use. I am not interested in that.

Quote:

Oh, and by the way, I am not a web designer, I am a website development and internet marketing trainer ;)
... so you teach how to make web sites? ... a web designer

masterchief Dec 7, 2009 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hospitalera (Post 20289)
In case you refer to me, I am actually a "gentle woman" ;--) SY

good to know. ;)

regards,
William


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