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Liston Nov 9, 2009 02:01 PM

As Flynn said you can get in anytime before it is released. Since it is not released yet, I would say the answer is yes.

lhanft Nov 9, 2009 07:47 PM

Has the beta testing started? I'd also like to participate -- and made sure to pay my $40 before the deadline so I could!

Lila

masterchief Nov 10, 2009 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzalolandin (Post 18573)
I think that if you have been working with Atahualpa you will be please to pay 100$ for theme frame.
I would pay 100$ for Atahualpa also.

contribute more for it... :)

Flynn Nov 10, 2009 07:13 PM

Themeframe will be for unlimited sites and domains, your own sites and client sites. No limitation there, and no extra fees per client site or things like that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by everyman (Post 18480)
Hey Flynn, Juggledad --

Obviously we are all "chomping at the bit" to get our hands on Themeframe and curious about the pricing. I understand you need to make a living, however, here is some feedback about that. Your main competitive advantage right now is that you are comparable to Thesis and free. I am afraid you will lose that if you go with a $100 product. I think a better bet is releasing a simplified free-or-very-cheap version with an upgrade path. Get people hooked and then make them upgrade. At very minimum, give us a developer license for use with my clients, I may even pay a few hundred for that. Without that, I will just go with Thesis and their developer license that gives me a right to resell for $40. It's a more mature product.

My next project is actually styling Atahualpa like Thesis, because Thesis has much better typography. I will write more when that's done.

warm regards,
marc
http://everymanmarketing.com


Flynn Nov 10, 2009 07:14 PM

There won't be footer credits. I really want this to be a useful tool for web designers and developers. A tool even I myself would (and will) use.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danielwerner (Post 18486)
I don't agree. I think Atahualpa is the free product that will get people hooked. If I hadn't downloaded Atahualpa about two years ago and gotten COMPLETELY hooked, I wouldn't have waited for Themeframe for 6 months.

I would gladly pay $100 for a completed Themeframe-product, since I know how great Atahualpa was. Atahualpa should be the free theme and Themeframe the premium theme with all the Atahualpa-features and more. The main thing is to keep Atahualpa good but Themeframe better, and I know people will pay that much for it. :)

Although, I must say, with that pricing I ASSUME that there won't be a footer credit link.


Danielwerner Nov 10, 2009 08:06 PM

Keep up the good work, Flynn!

A question though: The themeframe beta, with the features that isn't implemented yet, will it be possible to build and maintain a site with the beta, and not lose any functions that Atahualpa has? How big will the limitations be on the beta?

You see, I'm going to build a pretty big (I hope) site this week, and I'm not sure if I should use Atahualpa and wait until Themeframe goes 1.0, or wait a until the beta is released and start on the site then.

lhanft Nov 12, 2009 08:46 PM

I agree that the positive experience of using Atahualpa will make more-than-casual users willing to pay for Themeframe. Especially if the support community is as robust and helpful as this one is.

Early today, I checked out a new twitter follower to see if I wanted to follow him back. When I got to his website I found it was Atahualpa-themed! I felt immediate kinship. Anyone who's using Atahualpa can't be all bad, can they? ;)

gomer Nov 13, 2009 10:56 AM

Increased donation level to $40. Since ThemeFrame not released yet, can I be included in beta?

Danielwerner Nov 13, 2009 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomer (Post 18869)
Increased donation level to $40. Since ThemeFrame not released yet, can I be included in beta?

Read the latest posts please, it says that you can donate and be included in the beta UNTIL the beta is released.

gomer Nov 13, 2009 11:12 AM

Come on, dude, a simple yes/no is enough. We don't need to talk down to each other.

Thanks anyway.

Danielwerner Nov 13, 2009 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomer (Post 18873)
I speak fluent sarcasm...and you're not there yet.
So, next time, if you want to be helpful? Just say yes or no.

It wasn't meant as sarcasm (I speak it fluently too). Didn't I make myself clear? All who donate before the beta is released will get the beta. It says so in several of the latest posts.

So in other words; yes. :)

everyman Nov 13, 2009 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flynn (Post 18719)
Themeframe will be for unlimited sites and domains, your own sites and client sites. No limitation there, and no extra fees per client site or things like that.

Well, that answers my concern. If this is really true, you got my business (and, I would probably bill my clients an optional donation in the $20 range per license). Where do I send the check :)

I do have one suggestion of Atahualpa / Themeframe vs. Thesis. Thesis has much better typography. My next project is styling Atahualpa to look like Thesis. I would imagine it quite simple. When it's done I will post the instructions to this site, and if anyone else has done it let me know.

thanks
Marc
http://internet101.biz (I had begun the styling here, but the site has no side-bars yet so it's still young)

masterchief Nov 16, 2009 11:02 AM

Flynn,

Are you going to be using the donor forums to distribute Themeframe?

hospitalera Nov 16, 2009 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by everyman (Post 18895)
... When it's done I will post the instructions to this site, and if anyone else has done it let me know....

That would be great, I am especially interested to learn how to do the big, two sidebars wide, widget area, SY

Flynn Nov 18, 2009 01:08 PM

Typography is font-face, font-size, line-height, letter-spacing, word-spacing and maybe font-style, font-variant and text-transform, if I'm not mistaken. There are sliders for the numeric value based settings and select menus for the rest, all combined on one tab of the CSS creator. You can see the changes immediately and salt to taste.

Thesis is a very popular and well marketed theme, kudos to Chris Pearson. I do not follow Thesis' footsteps though, I don't even have a copy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by everyman (Post 18895)
Well, that answers my concern. If this is really true, you got my business (and, I would probably bill my clients an optional donation in the $20 range per license). Where do I send the check :)

I do have one suggestion of Atahualpa / Themeframe vs. Thesis. Thesis has much better typography. My next project is styling Atahualpa to look like Thesis. I would imagine it quite simple. When it's done I will post the instructions to this site, and if anyone else has done it let me know.

thanks
Marc
http://internet101.biz (I had begun the styling here, but the site has no side-bars yet so it's still young)


Flynn Nov 18, 2009 01:22 PM

It will be a separate forum section, where only forum members with a "Themeframe" membership subscription can read & post. The subscriptions will be managed by the forum software's integrated "Paid Subscriptions" feature as the central application to manage distribution and users, with little custom scripts to control downloads.



Quote:

Originally Posted by masterchief (Post 19047)
Flynn,

Are you going to be using the donor forums to distribute Themeframe?


hospitalera Nov 19, 2009 01:22 AM

Just added another donation, really looking forward to Themeframe, especially since seing the video! BTW, in the far and distant future, when Themeframe is stable / finished, do you plan a referral / affiliate program? SY

clayphillips Nov 19, 2009 08:20 AM

OK, just checked out the video and donated to make it under the wire for beta...looks cool, except for the part at the end where you either say "i'm kidding you" or "i'm killing you"

not quite sure and a little frightened. :)

clay

Flynn Nov 19, 2009 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clayphillips (Post 19238)
OK, just checked out the video and donated to make it under the wire for beta...looks cool, except for the part at the end where you either say "i'm kidding you" or "i'm killing you"

not quite sure and a little frightened. :)

clay

LOL... I'll try to spell better next time

Wimbledon Nov 19, 2009 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hospitalera (Post 19224)
Just added another donation, really looking forward to Themeframe, especially since seing the video! BTW, in the far and distant future, when Themeframe is stable / finished, do you plan a referral / affiliate program? SY

See post #10...Flynn has stated that Themeframe will have an affiliate program.

Vidal Nov 19, 2009 09:14 PM

Not sure where all the Love is coming from for Thesis' typography :confused:

IMHO many of the sites I've seen that have been created using Thesis - look like, well, Thesis! And frankly a bit like a Volvo - solid, safe but a little traditional and dare I say it ... boring. I'm not criticising Thesis, all I'm saying is that the beauty of Atahualpa is that it seems to actively enable you to create unique, individual sites that don't look like an out-of-the-box solution.

Anyway, this argument is about to become irrelevant, because based on the video, Themeframe is about to become the next best thing since sliced bread. :)

Keep up the great work Flynn, I've donated and am looking forward to the Beta.

paulae Nov 20, 2009 05:40 AM

I agree, re: Thesis. You can get any typography you want with Atahualpa and Themeframe. Very flexible layout, too. And if you want something really boffo, you can always create an image with typography.

wrecker69 Nov 24, 2009 08:45 AM

Just found this forum and it looks like Themeframe is going to be an exceptional product. Just wondering if I still have time to get in for the beta? Also, I understand that the donation level for becoming a beta user is $40.(USD or CAD does it matter?) Is that correct? Will the the beta users have to pay an upgrade when it goes out of beta? Just a few concerns as I am a new Wordpress user (developer) and can see the advantages of a product like this. :)

juggledad Nov 24, 2009 09:30 AM

You can still get in since it hasn't been released yet. The donation can go to Flynn or myself (Juggledad) and it's $40US and All Themeframe Beta users will get a free upgrade to Themeframe.

wrecker69 Nov 24, 2009 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggledad (Post 19498)
You can still get in since it hasn't been released yet. The donation can go to Flynn or myself (Juggledad) and it's $40US and All Themeframe Beta users will get a free upgrade to Themeframe.

Thanks for the reply Juggledad. I'm off to donate now. Should I send you or Flynn my Paypal info after I'm done?

Richard

hospitalera Nov 24, 2009 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggledad (Post 19498)
You can still get in since it hasn't been released yet. The donation can go to Flynn or myself (Juggledad) and it's $40US and All Themeframe Beta users will get a free upgrade to Themeframe.

BTW, I donated some days ago, but my forum profile seems not to have updated yet, I even lost the little gold bars I had previously against my name ;-( SY

juggledad Nov 24, 2009 01:52 PM

wrecker69 - thanks, your set
hospitalera - your records show you are eligible for themeframe

hospitalera Nov 24, 2009 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggledad (Post 19514)
wrecker69 - thanks, your set
hospitalera - your records show you are eligible for themeframe

Glad to hear, many thanks, really looking forward to it! SY

wrecker69 Nov 24, 2009 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggledad (Post 19514)
wrecker69 - thanks, your set
hospitalera - your records show you are eligible for themeframe

No, Thank You.

WordPressZen.com Nov 25, 2009 08:24 AM

Oh Dang!
I was out of the country and missed the posting for the October 25th Beta group payment deadline...any chance you might extend that deadline since the beta release appears to have been delayed?

juggledad Nov 25, 2009 08:44 AM

Since it hasn't been released, you can still get in.

WordPressZen.com Nov 25, 2009 08:56 AM

Awesome...donation coming through!

smikwily Nov 25, 2009 05:29 PM

Very anxious for the release, as I have a few sites I want to try this out on.

DavePorter Nov 29, 2009 01:35 AM

Hi All,

I donated on the 19th of this month, but don't appear to be recognized !
Is it automatic ? Or is it manually done and perhaps a delay ?

cheers Dave Porter

DavePorter Nov 29, 2009 01:37 AM

Oh, I just looked more closely at the PayPay confirmation email and I may not have been logged in when I processed the payment !

Please advise what to do ?

regards, Dave Porter

juggledad Nov 29, 2009 04:15 AM

send me a PM with the paypal info and I'll see what I can do

tamogila Nov 29, 2009 05:31 PM

I'm thinking there may be a glitch of sorts. I donated $20 way back and had 1 gold bar, then I donated another $20 recently and now have zero gold bars.

juggledad Nov 29, 2009 06:16 PM

tamogila - don't worry about the bars, the system shows you with both donations.

extremecarver Dec 1, 2009 03:17 PM

You should add to your donation site, that money sent to Juggledad, will not immediately show up. Or so at least it has been the case for me (I put 20 each, but only received one PM regarding payment - none for the donation to Juggledad).

Well was planning to donate around 20$ anyhow, so this thread got me motivated to add up another 20.

So thanks for your great work here. Currently searching for part time work and living from donations because I need time in setting up a new business, I know how hard it is....

Edit: Just after posting, second gold bar appeared, still a bit slower....
Edit 2: After editing now both gold bars are gone...., you seem to have a problem here.
Edit 3: Well after re-entering they are back. So seem to be visible only if you access a thread, but gone after posting a reply, reappearing on reload.

juggledad Dec 1, 2009 03:22 PM

I just posted your payment to me, thanks - as long as the payment is made before the beta is released, you will get in. When I post the donations, I always post it as of the donation date, no matter when I actually post it.

Once again, thanks for the donation

(ps the bars probally happened because I was updating and hit an error and fixed it, so we were probably doing it at the same time)


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